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Old Mar 18, 2006, 09:21 PM // 21:21   #61
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emotes for hell's precipice and maybe for all skills (including elites) would be nice
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Old Mar 18, 2006, 10:01 PM // 22:01   #62
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hmm I could maybe see an emote for how many "chapters" you beat, as in beat all the missions in the game for that chapter. So if I beat all of Chapter 1 (not including all bonus) I can show off in Cantha I've beat chapter 1.

But the emote would be different, C1 emote, C2 Emote (you may have to call what chapter you want to show).

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Old Mar 18, 2006, 10:10 PM // 22:10   #63
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hmm I could maybe see an emote for how many "chapters" you beat, as in beat all the missions in the game for that chapter. So if I beat all of Chapter 1 (not including all bonus) I can show off in Cantha I've beat chapter 1.
Why not all mission + bonus ? I'd rather have one for EVERY missions+bonus+quest emote (including FoW/UW) even if now i have to track the ones i've left behind
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Old Mar 19, 2006, 12:00 AM // 00:00   #64
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i think a pve emote would be great, wonder if all those moaning about it are pvpers?
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Old Mar 19, 2006, 01:33 AM // 01:33   #65
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I, too, favor the idea of giving an emote to people who've finished particularly difficult quests...maybe something for people who've done all the bonuses, for example.

On the other hand, there is something to say about people who farm a lot--I'll take a person that farms a particular area over a person who's done all of the quests any day, if I'm doing that area.

As far as it leaving n00bs to exile, oh well. I'm tired of getting killed by inexperienced "exp" players in my group. This would force them to "Prove it". I'll still help out people that haven't done it before--but this way, I'll be sure to discuss strategy as needed.
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Old Mar 19, 2006, 01:37 AM // 01:37   #66
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I don tlike this idea.. much like its been said

"Group Forming for THK, Emote at Henchies"
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Old Mar 19, 2006, 03:17 AM // 03:17   #67
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I don tlike this idea.. much like its been said

"Group Forming for THK, Emote at Henchies"
Well you know who to not group with. Anyone who would resort to that for THK is worth avoiding.
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Old Mar 19, 2006, 03:24 AM // 03:24   #68
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Racthoh would own most of us if it came down to an /exp emote. Experience says as much as Fame and Faction say... which isn't much at all.
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Old Mar 19, 2006, 03:39 AM // 03:39   #69
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i got 3 million with my ranger, so wat i get
Hooked on Phonics.

You UW trap it isnt too obvious
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Old Mar 19, 2006, 03:40 AM // 03:40   #70
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Old Mar 19, 2006, 04:43 AM // 04:43   #71
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actually, if you worry cant get in group because of emote, you can always start your own group, together with all the ppl without emote.

and like many others had said, ppl who play many characters usually will have less exp than ppl that focus on one character. so, exp emote dun really show your skill. but hey, i want exp more
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Old Mar 19, 2006, 07:07 AM // 07:07   #72
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You already have all the "vanity items" to show how long you've been playing PvE. The reason there are PvP emotes is because PvP characters come and go like the wind, it's the only thing they have to give an indication as to how experienced they are.

This idea ranks along side the "PvEers should get $100,000 too!" one.
My warrior is has never bought 15k armour and usually wears collector's armour and uses collector's weapons. Sorry to disagree with you but unless you're lucky, only the farmers end up with all that stuff you refer to as vanity items. The regular players (again unless you have a lucky seed for your character) really don't. One of my guildies is a farmer. I've completed all the quests and missions in the world with my warrior plus Fissure quests and a few UW quests (clear fissure, furnace several times), whereas he mainly farms ettins. He has Fissure Armour and I do not have anything even close.

The idea is sound. An emote for quests/missions/finishing the game/all fissure quests/all uw quests/all titan quests/ all furnace quests/etc. I had a guildie finish the game for the first time today. Wow, what a letdown the ending was for him (free boat trip to - not going to say where just in case)..

P.S., sometimes it doesn't mean you are an elitist pig to flash something like that (if they are implemented). some people are just too narrow minded (nay-sayers) that they can't see it can also be used for good (the wise-been there done that- mentor/big brother/friend).. I think too many people here are either jaded by the bad things (or poor implementations of good things) that they don't see any good. Most of the nay-sayers probably either got burned or burned someone else. Some of us just move on. Some of us like to help people. Having an emote that says you've completed the game may convince one of you or someone new that you might actually be able to help them in a tough mission or give advice that is worth listening too.

I mean take these forums for example. I was talking to a co-worker in my guild the other day about how I noticed my title had increased after so many posts. We both agreed that's about the dumbest idea we've heard of in a forum because it doesn't take into account whether you are just hammering out crap or actually making some kind of sense. If it can be done here, then it can be done in game as well, maybe even better.

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Old Mar 19, 2006, 07:10 AM // 07:10   #73
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no k thx
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Old Mar 19, 2006, 08:01 AM // 08:01   #74
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People keep saying that EXP means nothing in PvE. I DO NOT agree (when talking about people with 5mill exp+), but this is just like saying rank means nothing in PvP... which I agree with as well.

People keep saying that the rank emote would be abused, I don't agree with this at all.. I think that the rank emote in PvP is totally ABUSED where as the EXP emote would NOT be...

Here is the reason.... in PvE everytime you create a new character you start with no exp...right? So for people to be in THK asking for a rank emote would be dumb... how many people with 2mill exp would be doing THK?

I say that there be NO exp emote for under 1mill exp.... and that they should start at 1mill exp and go up accordingly like 1mill, 2mill, 4mill, 8mill, etc.. something like this..

I think its reasonable to expect people to have atleast 1mill exp to go into FoW or UW.... even if they don't atleast they can say they have experience and can take directions, I for one take people with any exp into FoW or UW and help them out if they have never been before..
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Old Mar 19, 2006, 08:29 AM // 08:29   #75
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People keep saying that the rank emote would be abused, I don't agree with this at all.. I think that the rank emote in PvP is totally ABUSED where as the EXP emote would NOT be...

Here is the reason.... in PvE everytime you create a new character you start with no exp...right? So for people to be in THK asking for a rank emote would be dumb... how many people with 2mill exp would be doing THK?

I say that there be NO exp emote for under 1mill exp.... and that they should start at 1mill exp and go up accordingly like 1mill, 2mill, 4mill, 8mill, etc.. something like this..
Does make sense. I could get rank 9 solely playing IWAY then spam R9 mesmer lfg and have no experience whatsoever as a mesmer. And I don't think people are honestly going to power level a million+ experience just for skill points considering the amount of gold it would cost to find someone to do that much leveling.
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Old Mar 19, 2006, 12:25 PM // 12:25   #76
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Yes!...

This is something that should most DEFINATLY put in...

Although the details are sketchy.. and im not sure about if these emotes should be completley "experience points" related..

Gaile Obviously feels that PvE'ers need some kind of bragging rights also, and I agree with her, its only right.

As for the argument that it would create the problem of people requesting an emote at thunderhead keep...well, whats wrong with that?... I mean, seriously!... if you have rushed the game, not botherd to do side quests or even bonus's... or skipped entire quests out, then really, do you deserve to be picked for a team that REALLY wants to get thunderhead done?...no.

Experience points are EASY to get... its not like gaining Rank points which are basically impossible, unless you already have a rank... which is a catch 22 situation

Experience points are also directly related to skill points, so someone with alot of XP will have alot of skills unlocked, which, despite there abilities, as a teamleader you can at least say..."please take this skill and that one"

You also have to remember that nearly every other Multiplayer RPG game out there has the ability to give information about your character to another player.... in Guildwars there is only ONE way to do this... rank emote...which proves what?... nothing really. (its widley known that r3 peeps can be just as noob as non-ranked)

its about time characters should be able to give other information to other players OTHER than your rank!

What about Fame points?

Faction points?

Character age..

Deaths..

How long in your current guild...

guild rank?.. and rating?..

Lets get all this info opened up to the public.. stop the division between ranked and non-ranked people...

an XP emote would be a good start : )

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Old Mar 19, 2006, 02:00 PM // 14:00   #77
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I think it's a pretty bad idea myself, it is like many say as bad of an idea as fame and rank, which really only seperates those who have played the game in HA for way too much against the newer people who are probably every bit as good, just not quite as experienced. As Ractoh says, getting rank 9 is no achievement, any idiot could do it with some gimmick build if they stick at it long enough... and then use it to join groups as something they have no experience with... many actually do this, not really their fault either - they _have_ to do it to get into a group nowadays because there is so much elitism going on... that said, your average rank 6 group is better than your average rank 3 group - but there is a significant amount of people in both group types who are clueless. And some of the rank 9 players, when trying to run non-gimmick builds in Team Arenas can be down right laughable..... and at the end of that, my conclusion is fame, emotes... whatever... in pvp and pve is not a good idea, in my opinion, but i like my pretty animal...

It's something that shouldn't be important in picking your groups, but since it's there - it is used a lot
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Old Mar 19, 2006, 02:16 PM // 14:16   #78
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I completely agree with this sort of thing. I think a really good one, not an emote or noticable by the player themselves, but something that tells me that that person is very experienced PvE-wise. I think emotes and ranks are better left to PvP people for bragging/trash-talking purposes, but if I'm in a tough mission and would like to get into a really good group and complete it, I think there should be something noticable about the character, like say, if they have completed all the quests leading up to there, then put some kind of a marking indicator for that, instead of just some idiot who got ran there and ran through every mission (although some missions can't be ran). Because it's the PvE aspect I'm thinking about here, I don't think PvE'ers would care if it's something they couldn't see themselves, but others could, like if I target so and so who's LFG for a mission and I notice that they only did like 3 quests and just burned through the rest of the game somehow, I would think, "Well, I don't think I wanna get in a group with THAT guy, he'll probably just wanna burn through this mission too and be annoying, calling people names and what not through the entire mission.". So what my idea boils down to doesn't introduce somebody to show something or flash an emote, or have some really outrageously expensive armor, but something that's obvious to everyone else. Some kind of icon by their names or something, that way, you can also tell who's there to help with missions, and has already completed further quests, or explored highly difficult areas, etc.

Like I mentioned though, leave the stuff out that can be used as a means to demean players with like flashy emotes or rank to whoever wins the basketball game the most or something. Just put up a simple icon by their names that says how far along in the storyline they are and which areas they have encountered and survived or something, that way, instead of asking them to prove themselves to me, so I can pretend to be all that, it will be plainly visible to me whether or not these people are going to be good in a group.
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Old Mar 19, 2006, 02:36 PM // 14:36   #79
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Exp and the new Pve bragging rights will not be a emote per se. Evidence:

Anet is a business.
Anet employees play the game.
People who play the game know how much the emote system has pissed off a large number of people.
Pissed off customers is bad for business.
Anet *tries* not to piss off a large number of people without due cause (game rebalance would count as due cause) and therefore will learn from mistakes.
Therefore, Anet will not implement a exp emote.

They do want Pve to earn respect, how to do this will be elite missions that require skill and then post scores on it. Not a rank, but a way to measure success. Separating some from mass creates elitism by design, but hopefully Anet will refine their method of rewards.
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Old Mar 19, 2006, 02:38 PM // 14:38   #80
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Sorry if it's already been mentioned in this thread, but Gaile mentioned somewhere or other there might be "titles" of some kind for accomplishments, so that might be similar/replacement idea instead of emotes.
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